I went to your MySpace. You music rules. I really love it.
This isn't really Grunge I'd say though. I mean, it's grunge-y, but it also has stoner rock elements. And the obvious electronic influence.
Anyway, nice work.
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thanks. and thanks.
stoner rock?
I am willing to argue it was suicide.
Also, it was Kurt. You misspelled it.
Regardless, grunge is indeed one of the best styles of music.
i misspelled nothing!
buy a copy of incesticide, you'll see what i mean.
the spelling of his name as Kurdt Kobain comes direct from the man himself. It is a test, and you failed it. If you think I have misspelled his name as "Kurdt" then it's obvious you don't own a copy of Incesticide, and I find that very sad, as it is the 2nd best Nirvana album next to bleach. Buy the album, read the liner notes, and you'll learn more about Nirvana and the ethos of grunge than you ever thought possible.
And if you own the album and have never read the liner notes, then shame on you!
i love the early late 80's nirvana. i wouldnt call it grunge or ugly rock at all, it is indeed what rock should be- raw. it wasnt only the sound but as always with music- the image. its the same thing as the counter culture in the 60's- the labels jumped on the bandwagon to quickly recruit and cash in on such a lucrative opportunity. i think kurt was ill prepared to become a commodity, but that's exactly what happened- the look, the sound, it all sold so good.
you know your right gives an outlet to see how much he his music really changed (compared to what it was on the box set). and more striking than anything, the brutally raw lyrics and vocals. he said he was starting from scratch for the 1st time, and although you know your right was originally made before 94 with different lyrics, it offers us a glimpse of what he was evolving rock into.
everytime i listen to you know your right i get goosebumps. this is, without a doubt in my mind, the greatest band that has ever exsisted. grunge is just a title, used by those who cant identify anything past how they appear. nevermind says about grunge, "its just about not caring." that is the most singular, two-demensional, and ignorant answer i've ever heard. i suppose if you listen to anything besides aic and nirvana, then call it whatever you want- idc.
but nirvana is one thing- raw.
yeah late 80s nirvana falls into that whole "new wave punk" category that many bands like the clash and siouxsie and the banshies kinda bought into, the elements of punk like distortion and the message of the lyrics but with a slower tempo, poppier tunes, and less thrash.
that's why i say Bleach was their best album, because it captures a living essence of Grunge in its purest form: riffs as opposed to chords, shouts and grunts as opposed to singing, and unique beats as opposed to 4/4 time dance-able beats like so many other punks bands sold out with.
Nirvana and early Soundgarden were the kings of Grunge, owing more to bands like Rush and Pink Floyd than either band would ever admit.
Pearl Jam is like a sloppy Led Zeppelin, but they still rock.
and it was me that said grunge is about not caring, and it's true. nirvana's studio albums don't give us as much of a clue to this as much as their live performances. check out their version of "come as you are" on the "live, tonight, sold out!" tour video. the guitar is tuned terribly, and kurdt doesn't shut off the dirtortion or flanger effect for the whole song, and his voice his especially awful for that performance.
that's really what i meant, the fact that he was playing the number 3 song in the country and didnt give a fuck if it sounded bad. neither did the audience.
they were just glad to be there, hearing them live.
that's grunge.
that's rock n' roll.
and it's awesome.
this is my point, though... that none of you understand what grunge REALLY is. and i still believe it. i'm not some fucking expert, just a guy who loves this fucking genre more than any other. you think you're being smart in disagreeing with me, not realizing that i really do know what i'm talking about here. you have your own opinions, and that's fine, but you're wrong.
do you think kurdt thought his music was great?
yeah?
wrong!
kurt hated his own music, and was bored with every song about 30 seconds into it. nirvana would start "teen spirit" and just cut it off halfway into the first verse because they were so fuckin tired of playing it.
but we'll listen to it from now until the end of the world, and he wouldn't and couldn't understand why. neither can i.
i forgot to mention, if you like good music, then you'll love Primus
omg yeah i forgot about them.
truly one of the greatest and most innovative bands ever!
it's not many bands that get a whole genre named after them. in fact i think they may be the only ones!
"If me or Nessbeatsfox walked into an American Idol audition, we would be stopped halfway through and told to leave and never sing again outside of our houses, and THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!"
Amen brother! There should be an American Idol for grunge artists.
shit i also forgot sonic youth. 'daydream nation' changed my life
Agreed. Grudge is not caring.
"It shouldn't seem plastic or overproduced, either."
This is what I find to be the key point of grunge rock. So many bands sell out nowadays, sporting a polished sound (e.g., Nevermind), and i think this defeats the whole "purpose" of grunge. You bring up a great point in this post.
Nevermind3
So true.
Grunge shouldn't sound good but mostly it's just about not caring.
It can still be decent music and grunge at the same time.
Gunshy (Updated )
agreed. it should be decent. but it shouldn't be techno.