"I PROBABLY HATE YOU"
I laughed pretty hard.
And yeah, when I get Flash, I have this list of concepts I want to turn into respective movies. A music video to Waiting to Die was fifth on the list.
Ross Allaire is an author, composer, screenwriter, EMT, and security officer who lives, works, and plays in the Philadelphia area.
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nice! i'm trying to get more into that whole "I PROBABLY HATE YOU" line of stuff.
i've been waiting a long time for the "waiting to die" music vid concept to float around, so i finally just said it. if i could draw or do flash, that's probably what i would be doing, "beaten, bombed, defenestrated..." some crazy crap.
I wouldn't want to get flash, I wouldn't know how to use it well, and It'd be a waste of money
money? you think half these people actually buy flash?
In my mind, i always sort of visualized it as a "Johnny Got His Gun" sort of thing, fading back and forth from him imagining all those deaths (fantasy) to some monotonous day to day sort of corporate job (reality). In the end, he commits suicide as the song sort of slows down at the end, and the movie fades to black, as overdone as that is.
Although, I might not animate his face. Maybe to keep his identity a secret, or maybe he doesn't have an identity, or maybe he is the identity of the millions of people with Dilbert type jobs that realize how bland their respective lives are.
That, or a bunch of violent backgrounds and depictions of each line, which could prove to be more intense, or even "arty," but with less of a storyline and maybe meaning.
Mind you, this concept is only fifth on the list, I feel as is I've already over-thought it.
i hear ya on that one. overthinking ideas is one of the things i do best!
flash, and drawing for that matter, are a complete mystery to me. but scriptwriting and screenwriting have always been part of what i do, yet still i have relatively few concept ideas for music videos. i never even tried to think of my songs in some visual way until a few years ago. "oh yeah, music videos,... uh, shit," or i'm basically just having ideas. like, "dead heroes" is red and orange to me, as a song, whereas "waiting to die" is black and purple. it's like that.
i must admit i have never even heard of this "johnny got his gun" but now i must read it! or see it! or something.
Yeah, i'm the same way. I visualize songs through colours.
Dead Heroes is definitely orange or some hot colour, Terra Angelica is probably a pinkish purple sort of colour, and Waiting to Die is navy, at least for me.
At the risk of being called a Pearl Jam rip off, I never really liked music videos. When I watch them, I typically think that the song was better the way I visualized it. Yes, I know I just said that.
And Johnny Got His Gun is an excellent book, but to understand what I was talking about with the fading into reality, you'd have to see the film.
ok will do (on the johnny movie)
hmm yeah theres a lot of blue in waiting to die. it's a blues song, duh!
and yeah terra angelica is definitely pink/red and yellow and white and some other stuff there, lilac or lavender/magenta... that's what i get for writing a song about a just barely-teenaged girl. big crunchy girlie glam sadness.
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uh yeah i actually kinda agree with the "never really liked music videos," in principle, even though as a teenager i was glued to mtv like anybody else. it was all we had, then, besides the radio. alternative nation, headbanger's ball, and 120 minutes got me thru the week. especially 120 minutes and superrock when it was on. they'd show old black sabbath videos and alice cooper and shit, so it was all worth it. but as far as what was then-popular, it was basically nirvana and yeah the vid for jeremy was awesome. but in the end, most videos are these slick promotional tools, hype for the bands' images, not the works of art that jeremy, come as you are, and any tool video so obviously are. i love the video for pearl jam's song evolution.
what i hate seeing is what so many greenday videos are, the band playing pantomime in some weird theatrical setup, edited within shots of the band or just the lead singer walking somewhere, slowly. so cliche.
I visualize most things with colors. Waiting to Die was a mix between Red, and Purple. I didn't really hear much blue...if that makes sense.
Movies are usually a color to me too. Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets was A Red/Orange. I remember that extremely clearly.
And if you want a 'Johnny Got His Gun Reference' The Music Video for 'One' by Metallica has clips from it.
I never really liked Metallica...
and "Sleeping with Ross" is a sexy title...obviously.
When I said pink, I didn't really mean the neon-hot-obnoxiously-bright kind of pink, I meant kind of a spacey, arty, nebula-esque atmospheric kind of pink. Kind of pale really, lilac would describe it nicely, I suppose.
Agreed, great music videos are rare, and ones that can be deemed as actual "art" are even more rare. But for the most part, they are a way a means to make money by the record company, or even the band, the latter case of which is even worse.
Green Day and Good Charlette or whatever pretty much ruined the modern music video. Yeah, pretty much all Green Day videos are the same; they all incorporate some cliche, whether it's from one of their previous videos, or just a classic gag seen throughout MTV.
I understand how long ago all this was said, but I do enjoy the "Nice Guys Finish Last" Green Day video.
ChickenGod
If somebody made a flash of all of the ways to die in that song, It'd be so epic-ly awesome.
Gunshy
...and probably banned (except on NG), which of course would only make it awesome-r!